Monday, July 9, 2012

Thoughts on Capital Punishment

If you wrong someone, you deserve to be wronged back. This is just the way I think; it's only fair. You hit me, I hit you. You take my bread, I take yours. You willfully kill someone, you get killed. People will argue about this on a moral level, but fact is that if the punishment imposed on an offender is not as substantial as the initial offense, we create a small 'window of forgiveness' where the offender comes out on top. However, the most forgiving and noble of us will cry "The taking of a person's life is never justified, even in reparation for the worst of offenses." I disagree. If you do something so morally reprehensible as murdering someone, then you deserve to die. I can't explain this any further without beating it to death. If you disagree on this moral ground, please try to explain to me how the killing of a murderer is anything less than just.

But that argument is based on moral/ethical grounds. Let's speak now about more practical matters, such as specific states killing convicted murderers. I believe it is indeed a state's right to decide how to deal with its criminals. I have not found a phrase in the Constitution that gives the federal government the right to decide how to treat criminals so by the 10th Amendment, it is a power reserved for the states.

That could be the end of it right there. Let each state decide to enforce the death penalty or not. Got to love that federalism. If I was home and voting in North Carolina, I think I would vote for a candidate that supported the use of the death penalty for convicted murderers. But some people have told me that it costs more for the state to kill a person than it does to keep them in prison for the rest of their life. That sounds ridiculous to me. Can't the state just shoot them? That must cost as much as a bullet. So I did a little research on how much it costs to kill someone or to keep them in prison.

It turns out, at least according to Philip Cook at Duke's Sanford School of Public Policy, that most of the cost of a system with the possibility of capital punishment lies in the legal proceedings that decide the fate of the offender. He has a beautiful paper called "Potential Savings from Abolition of the Death Penalty in North Carolina" that I got all of my information from. Please refer to it if you find my explanation insufficient.

Anyways, in North Carolina much more money is spent defending the accused when the prosecutors attempt to obtain a death penalty sentence. Cook says that if the death penalty was abolished, these long and expensive trials would disappear resulting in a more fiscally responsible state. In the paper I mentioned before, he cites a very relevant statistic that he got from the NC Office of Indigent Defense Services (IDS). First, he looks at nearly all the murder cases in FY's 2005 and 2006 in NC (excluding the weakest cases resulting in dismissal or conviction of a crime less than second degree murder). He then compares the cases in which the prosecution attempted to get a death penalty versus those that did not. He found that on average, IDS pays $56,900 to help a defendant in a case that was at any point declared capital and $12,600 for a case that was never declared as capital. Isn't that nuts?!

So basically, the murderers are going to be the ones that have to defend themselves against the death penalty. They are often too poor to get their own attorney so the state provides them with one. If the prosecution decides to just push for life without parole, the state pays a small amount of money compared to when the prosecution tries to convict the offender of first degree murder and sentence him to death. The difference that lands on NC taxpayers is a whopping $44,300 per case. If we didn't have the death penalty (i.e. it wasn't an option for prosecutors to shoot for), the prosecutors could only go for life in prison which results in a much cheaper and speedier trial. Cook claims that this aspect of a more expensive legal process for capital cases alone cost NC over $9.5 million dollars during the 2 years he studied. That's a lot of money.

Cook goes on to explain several other aspects of capital cases that incur massive costs on the NC government. These include expensive appeals and re-sentencings that occur after the offender is convicted, court time spent on long trials, and government funding of offices that deal exclusively with capital punishment. He does a very thorough job and I don't have the energy to try to disprove any of his data. In the end, he estimates that it costs NC almost $11 million per year to keep the death penalty as a lawful punishment for first degree murder.

After realizing this, I would vote for a politician who campaigned for the abolition of the death penalty. I can't believe that we as North Carolinians are paying $11 million a year just to have the ability to execute someone. How many people do we execute, just so we know we're getting some bang for our buck? In the years that were analyzed by Cook, we executed 9 people. To me, it's not worth the price.

Now realize that I still encourage the death penalty for murderers on a moral level, but I realize that in practice it's not quite so easy. With all the costs of the trial and the appeals and time lost, it is simply not worth it to occasionally kill someone who was convicted of murder. In an ideal world, the murderer would be convicted (even after a somewhat more expensive and lengthy trial) and there would be no appeals because the jury just made a decision and the state would then take him outside and shoot him immediately. Simple, right? But given the massive bureaucratic system in which this process now takes place, the cost has risen to a level at which the benefits of abolishing the death penalty outweighs the moral reasoning behind it.

Sure, if you really want justice for the murderers you will still endorse the death penalty, no matter what the cost. I really want justice for the murderers too, but given the massive bill I get, I think it's easier to just put them in prison for life without the possibility of parole. It's cheaper and now all those noble and forgiving people have shut up.

If you are against the death penalty for a moral reason, please message me or comment below explaining your reasoning; I would like to be convinced. I know I skipped over many issues with capital punishment in this post so please talk about the most relevant of them. If I find some more time soon, I will most definitely address them. I'm including some information about Cook's paper at the bottom so you can read it for yourself. Please do it; it's quite interesting. In the meantime I'll be reading more papers on the topic to see if anyone poses a vastly different view. Thanks for reading.

Reference
: Cook, Philip J. 2009. "Potential Savings from Abolition of the Death Penalty in North Carolina," 11 American Law and Economics Review 498-529.

7 comments:

  1. Both the death penalty and life in prison are incredibly uncreative, resource eliminating/consuming answers.

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    1. What would you suggest we do with convicted murderers?

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  2. I am morally against capital punishment because of this: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates

    We look at physics, and require a five-sigma level certainty to convince us of the validity of a theory.

    Compare this to the court system, where it's just a matter of he-said-she-said in most cases, leaving it up to a handful of people to decide the life or death of someone. Add to this the cases of forced confessions, fabricated evidence by the police just to get someone behind the bars, and you get a system that is extremely sloppy. To top it off: as you mention, a lot of these suspects (or are they really guilty until proven innocent? - you seem to have this stance) are poor. The motivation of the states is to save money, but this conflicts with the aim of the provided defense - to be as diligent as possible. This just confounds the problem even more.

    This is a technical and practical issue, but it seems insurmountable, and in my opinion thus translates to a moral one.

    I can see how this argument can apply to lifetime sentences as well - and the situation there is probably even worse, as suggested by the $ figures you mentioned. However, capital punishment is, well, terminal, so the utmost care has to be taken.

    Great discussion and inner dialogue!

    Cheers!

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    1. Let me ask you this hypothetical question: Would you be against the killing of a person who without a doubt had murdered another person? I'm talking about unrealistic circumstances in which all citizens, including you, know for certain that the suspect is guilty of the murder.

      Obviously, we can never be certain of a person's guilt, as so clearly shown in your Wiki list of exonerated death row inmates. Indeed, this fact contributes to my distaste towards the death penalty and gives me reason to oppose it in practice, but it does not alter my fundamental, theoretical, and impractical thinking as to how the justice system should work.

      I don't think anyone is guilty until proven innocent. My writing must have been as sloppy as you claim the justice system is to make you think so.

      I don't understand your sentence "This is a technical and practical issue, but it seems insurmountable, and in my opinion thus translates to a moral one." Are you saying that because we cannot fix the justice system, we must leave that argument alone and focus on the moral argument?

      Great point about the exonerated death row inmates; indeed, when I talk about this with friends that is one of the first points they bring up. Thanks for the comment!

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  3. I am also morally against the death penalty. I doubt that what I say is going to convince you to change your morals, but I might as well share what I am thinking. I am an atheist, so I do not believe in the after life; actually I think death is quite scary considering it is infinitely nothing.
    I feel like because of this, the experience of living is the one thing that nobody has the right to take away from anybody else. Now obviously this murderer did take that away from another person, and yes that is a horrible thing to do that I greatly disagree with. But I don't think anything can justify YOU then doing that same act to another person. If you think that what this murderer did was SO horrible, how can you then commit the same act to them? How come the person who then kills this murderer isn't considered a murderer?
    On another level, like I said I am scared of the idea of death, so I think that my opinion also stems from thinking about myself being in the position where someone was going to kill me, and how unbelievably horrible that would feel. I would never wish this feeling, and then the subsequent infinite nothingness, on anybody else.

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    1. You think death is nothing. How can it be scary then? It includes no feelings, no consciousness, no fear, no joy. If I thought that death was infinitely nothing, then I wouldn't be afraid of it at all. I would certainly value my life over it, seeing as life is beautiful. But I would not be scared of death because there is nothing to fear. Literally, if I think that death is nothingness, what is there to be afraid of?

      "The experience of living is the one thing that nobody has the right to take away from anybody else."

      WHAT?! There are a multitude of things that nobody has the right to take from anybody else. How about the right to free speech? You better not take that from me. What about my property or my money? You better not take those from me. Maybe I misunderstood your statement, but I adamantly disagree.

      How can I justify the killing of a person? Easy, he killed someone else. I get what you're saying. "How are we any better than the murderers?" Because we kill out of reparation, to institute justice. Do you see how the person who kills the murderer is different from the murderer? One of them kills because of rage, passion, insanity, or some other unjustifiable reason. The other kills not because of some momentary lapse of judgement, not because of some outrage or burst of emotion, but because he recognizes that the murderer has done something unjust and must pay the consequence. He bears no personal malice towards the murderer (disregarding the hatred all decent people bear towards murderers), but realizes that such actions must invoke the proper reparation, death.

      I still don't understand how you can be scared of death if you think it is nothingness. If you cease to exist and there is no feeling and no consciousness, what are you afraid of? You have literally nothing to fear.

      I would never wish death upon anyone that has not murdered someone. But if you murder someone, you've taken away their life, something they can never get back. The corresponding reparation is death, and there is no alternative.

      Of course in this comment I'm speaking entirely theoretically.

      Thanks so much for the comment. Very interesting!

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    2. I agree that my fear of infinite nothingness is completely irrational, but the reason I fear it I think is because I don´t understand it. I can´t imagine not feeling, not thinking. In addition, I love life so much (by this I mean seeing and thinking and such) that it brings me immense sadness to think I will infinitely not have those things, which I might be misinterpreting as fear.

      "The experience of living is the one thing that nobody has the right to take away from anybody else."

      You responded by listing other rights no one can take away from you. When you go to jail, the rights you listed are taken away from you. If you have a lifelong sentence, your money basically is no longer yours. I think that taking away free speech, or taking away money, in a situation where somebody murdered somebody else is completely justified. I meant that no matter WHAT the circumstances life should be the one kept right.

      "...because he recognizes that the murderer has done something unjust and must pay the consequence"

      Here you are saying how we murderer for the right reason while he doesn´t. This is something I think should be thought about more carefully. Do you not think the murderer had a justification for his murder ? For sure some cases there aren´t, but for example the murderer killed someone who had cheated on his wife, he DOES have justification. His justification is just different than ours for killing him. So when you say our killing is justified and his isn´t, that is not true. Along with that...

      "disregarding the hatred all decent people bear towards murderers"

      Why are you allowed to disregard this? I don´t see how it is inherently different. As in my example, a man is angry for a man sleeping with his wife, we are angry for a man killing another man.

      Another case to consider (not sure if you are or aren´t already) is the case where someone who is insane kills somebody else. Would you still want them to be killed as a consequence?
      If no, could you not argue that anybody who kills anybody else is clearly insane, because a person in their right mind, me and you, would NEVER do that to someone else?
      If yes, I don´t think that is justified. When you are insane like that, you probably have no perspective of what life is and what death is and such, so you aren´t reprimanding them for killing somebody, you are reprimanding them for not understanding things the way you do.

      Good discussion points :)

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